After the mass on the steps of the Cathedral, the Landsknects 'discuss' the appropriateness of Gergesene's pledge. Nearby, the guard Alland asks Salvatori, and then the Landsknechts Fadyr and Gergesene, to come and listen to the Mage Talia. The cervani doe seems almost as wasted in body as the kaizer was. She reveals that some link existed between Bosch and the kaizer, that was set off by her spell. She suggests some agent in the palace established this link. Talia also reveals that she has been Heinrich's 'comfort', for the last 15 years, and that they have a 12 year old son 'Jael'. She begs Salvatori and the Landsknechts to keep her son safe from people who would use him as a political cause, and root the traitors in Chronotopia. In the course of this, Ruthven is revealed to be less compassionate in private, than he appears to be in public